All of that data is here. Thanks 53 Posts . AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Researching my load manuals, I discovered both Western and Hodgdon offer specific data for Berry’s plated bullets. ( Log Out /  out of my M&P9 FS 4.25" and 1045fps avg out of the M&P9L 5" both using a KKM barrel. I'm shooting an M&P Pro and want to make 130pf. Here is my load data: MFS 9x19 Brass CCI 500 Primers 6.5 to 7 grains of Blue Dot Powder 124 RN Berrys Bullets Lee Factory Crimp, light to no crimp applied. I use 115 gr xtreme bullets mainly with titegroup but made up some loads recently with hp38/231. Yes, I’ll chrono things eventually. Learn how your comment data is processed. I ran about 40 rounds through two of my XD-9’s. Hope it help's. Titegroup I use 4 gr @ 1.130". Plus a wide variety of reloading & shooting accessories, and gun maintenance vises. I didn’t keep track of all the guns, but we see the gamut in classes and I’m unaware of any hiccups. Quiet, reliable function, and accurate across the board with my guns. I've used the Raniers, and I pretty much copied data for cast bullets, as the copper coating goes directly over lead and isn't very thick. I am about to start reloading for my P229. of 5.5 and max of 6.1 for a 9mm FMJ, so you should be fine with a plated bullet. I have about 4 lbs. My go to Titegroup Load uses 3.4gr of Titegroup under 147 bullet. They shoot really well but I wanted to give Bayou a try, have heard great things about them. My old Production/ESP load was 4.2 gr of Titegroup under a 115gr Extreme RN plated bullet. We tried out their 147 gr RN (round nose) 9mm bullets. I tried them out today. My brother gave me some Titegroup. I have many other various loads. 9 MM Pistol Powders Click on each Powder picture to see detailed explainations, video, load data, shot groupings and more! This is probably not the optimum method of working up a load, but it worked for me with 200-grain .45 ACP and 115-grain 9mm loads. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. I need some help with 9 mm load data. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! As of this writing I’ve yet to run the Precision Delta through the chronograph, but in general shooting the feel and results are about the same. Plus a wide variety of reloading & shooting accessories, and gun maintenance vises. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Berry's Bullets is a pistol reloaders dream come true, offering great deals on plated pistol bullets in most calibers. 2.8 gr. I've been shooting this load for a while, and bought a new chronograph, so I didn;t include all of my old data, but it is basically the same as the stuff I have tested earlier this month. Over 60 profiles and grain weights of the shooting industry's Superior Plated Bullets. There may be a small difference in pressure or velocity, but I personally would not worry about it unless you are near the max load data. Plus, while the Berry’s is the cheapest of what I can find locally, the Precision Delta is overall FAR less expensive; and when buying the Precision Delta in large bulk quantities, the price differential is even greater. I am just starting out, I’m using rainier 115gr plated, 4gr titegroup, with cci #500, with a coal of between 1.138 and 1.143, is that too big of gap in the case? Plated bullets, cast bullets, and jacketed bullets are different animals, and will perform differently. It is completely safe to load, as our bullet is constructed out of a soft lead and then plated with copper, which does not cause the pressure spikes that an oversized FMJ round would. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. The only case prep was cleaning the cases (dry vibratory case tumbler), then of course a resize and decap. They fit my mag and chamber, eject without trouble. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. I’m sure there’s a difference somewhere, but I couldn’t notice. First, the Berry’s would have some troubles during reload… I’d go to seat the bullet and the bullet wouldn’t seat right, shaving the side of the bullet or seating in a manner other than straight and centered. Having a hard time finding load data. A couple of reasons. My conclusion is that a 115 gr. They also were very shiny, reloaded fine, and shot great. This load chrono's at 1020fps avg. Honestly, it’s been so long since I sat down at the reloading bench… my skills are rusty and I couldn’t say for sure. We tested over 30 powders that can be used for 9MM. Berry's Mfg sizes our .32 cal, 38 Super, 9mm, 40/10mm and .45 ACP a thousandth larger than the standard FMJ round diameter. I have a basic starting point, using 125 gr LRN data… Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. I used X-Treme plated 147gr bullets and have settled on a load of 3.6gr of Titegroup. As you can see from my data, even 3.8gr of Titegroup, will still be subsonic most of the time (depending on your atmospheric conditions.) I've been loading Precision Delta 147s with 3.6gr of titegroup and a 1.15oal. Like I did with the Rainier bullets, I'm going to start working up a load for the Berry's in small batches of low loads (like ~4.7 grains of W231) and work upward using my chronograph, noting cycling of all three of my .40 S&W pistols, watching for signs of pressure, etc. Berry's Mfg sizes our .32 cal, 38 Super, 9mm, 40/10mm and .45 ACP a thousandth larger than the standard FMJ round diameter. I'll receive credit towards future inevitable purchases, and you receive 5% off your order! All Rights Reserved. Worked just fine. Bullet: Berry’s plated 9mm 115 grain RN DS. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. Thanks for your inputs. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Subsonic 9mm Suppressed Handgun Load: Titegroup and Berry's 147 Grain Plated Round Nose. Berry’s doesn’t offer specific load data but suggests using published data for the same caliber and weight jacketed or cast bullet as long as the estimated velocity does not exceed the limit noted on the product label. I’ll eventually do more specific testing. Updated 4: It’s been almost 2 years since I came up with this recipe, and it’s still working well for me. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Titegroup is a fantastic powder for 9mm and .45ACP. 5 Accurate No. I am about to start reloading for my P229. I have load some test rounds (not shot yet) and used the data from Hodgon website. As of this past June I changed to 4.0 gr of Titegroup under a 124 gr Berry's FP (more of a truncated cone profile). As always, YMMV. out of my M&P9 FS 4.25" and 1045fps avg out of the M&P9L 5" both using a KKM barrel. Anyway, the above seems to work like a charm, or at least Good Enough™. If you're unsure, or just want options, check as many boxes as you'd like. I also would like to ask the COL you have settled on. It is completely safe to load, as our bullet is constructed out of a soft lead and then plated with copper, which does not cause the pressure spikes that an … For 231 I used 4.3 gr @ 1.130" OAL. I want to do some 9mm reloads and I have 115 gr berry's round nose plated bullets and either unique or power pistol powders. Berry’s doesn’t offer specific load data but suggests using published data for the same caliber and weight jacketed or cast bullet as long as the estimated velocity does not exceed the limit noted on the product label. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Insert disclaimer here. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. ALL Accurate Nitro 100 NF Accurate No. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. These are X-treme plated bullets and will be used for a G19 and a Beretta 92FS. The starting load was listed at 3.6 grains for a velocity of 957 fps, and the maximum load was listed at 4.1 grains for 1,057 fps. I get good accuracy, it is quiet, and best of all it is reliable. I have used Hornady 115 grain 9mm FMJ RN, and Speer 115 grain 9mm TMJ. I just loaded the last of my bullets from them last night, I've loaded 1500 of their 9mm bullets so far Found his email reply Dan Some customers use Titegroup with good results but most report to much smoke and fouling. 3.4 gr. My goal was to find a load that worked well is all my 9MMs with differing barrel lengths, rifling, etc. As long as they cycle fine in … If you can get a copy of Hodgdon's 2013 Annual Reloading guide($8.99), it has an excellent article on reloading 9mm & features TiteGroup & Berry's plated bullets, due to their increased popularity. Really soft shooting load and very accurate, very happy with this load. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Powders include Winchester, Vihtavuori, Alliant, IMR, Hodgdon, Accurate, Ramshot I like simple, and it works for all the handgun calibers I load, it also meters well in my powder thrower. No trimming, no primer pocket cleaning, nothing like that. Titegroup was one of the powders tested and the author of the piece found 4.5 gr Titegroup gave the best accuracy with 200 grain lead bullets. They cover most plated bullets including Rainier and Berry. I wanted to ask you guys what have you liked for 9mm 124gr plated bullets using Titegroup. Discussion Starter • #1 • Sep 10, 2013. *knocks on wood* Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. looking for any load data for 147gr bullets using using TiteGroup. I have a basic starting point, using 125 gr LRN data, found in my trusty Lee's manual. 2 Accurate No. And of course, it’s run through all my guns and I’ve had nary a hiccup. My actual used load is 5.3 grains of Unique and it runs my guns fine. There was a “Pet Loads” article in Handloader magazine about a year ago. I am going to try out some 147 Bayou Bullets with 3.2gr of titegroup. As expected, not a lot of performance change. The two powders I have a bunch of that I want to use up are W231 and SR 4756. Those 9mm reloads I did? Select your cartridge type from the drop-down list. Ill let you know how they turn out. 1.100 in. Posted: 2/9/2012 9:23:35 AM EST I used 4.4 grns of Titegroup with both of those bullets. Ruger SR9 4.1 9mm Win.SPP Titegroup 3.9 MG 124 JHP 1.07 1052 13.3 39 79 F BP:29.91 5 Feet Ruger SR9 4.1 9mm Win.SPP Titegroup 3.8 MG 124 JHP 1.07 1053 12.96 45 51 F BP:30.13 5 FEET Please feel free to post your test loads with Titegroup. I load to an OAL of 1.150 (COL max is 1.160") I'm typically loading a berry's 124 with 4.1grs. . I've been reloading 9mm for about 25 years and made a pretty comprehensive study of bullets, powders, loads, etc. Updated 3: I’ve been able to run the Precision Delta’s over a chronograph, as well as changing primers. You can also buy the guide if you don't have access to a computer. Using bullets from Barnes TAC-XP, Speer GDHP, Sierra FMJ, Speer FMJ, SinterFire, Lead Round Nose, Berry's Bullets HBRN TP, Lead Conical Nose, Hornady HAP, Berry's Bullets RN, … I need some help with 9 mm load data. I am using Berry's plated 124 gr RN. Those 9mm reloads I did? Is this a safe place to start, considering I have no chronograph.. I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. Bullet: Berry’s plated 9mm 115 grain RN DS Primer: Remington 1.5 Small Pistol Cases: Whatever used 9mm cases I have COAL: 1.135″ Powder: Titegroup 4.5 grains The only case prep was cleaning the cases (dry vibratory case tumbler), then of course a resize and decap.… Change ). Freedom is something we must give to others if we wish it for ourselves. Sure it worked in my XD’s, but over the past year or two I’ve had to loan some ammo, a magazine full here or there, to students in classes. I tried them out today. ( Log Out /  I have been all over the internet looking for a good, sound load for my 9mm. Check out the selection of bulk 45 ACP and 9MM bullets for reloading today! Become a Load Data member, access over 303,171 load recipies LoadData.com is a powerful search engine that allows you to search an ever-expanding database of loads. All made in the USA and provided with superior customer service. Order your nutrition products from TrueNutrition.com and use my discount code JCD1044 when you order! I used a Nosler 124 grain JHP, Winchester cases trimmed to 0.749", CCI #500 primers, and an OAL of 1.140". Anywhere in the 3.2-3.6 grain range will work well with Titegroup and the 147gr Berry's. I try to use a longer than suggested OAL just help with pressures etc. I know the website says use lead to mid range FMJ data. Does anyone have good load data for 147gr & 160gr 9mm Bayou Bullets using Titegroup powder? This load chrono's at 1020fps avg. I'm not in my office/reloading room now, but will try to post the page tomorrow. I use 3.4gr of Titegroup under 147gr Precision Delta FMJ at 1.15OAL. I have seen anything from 3.7-4.4 grains recommended. I tried them side-by-side with some Federal American Eagle factory loads and I couldn’t tell a difference in accuracy, how the ammo fed, how the gun felt, how the brass ejected, how the spent brass looked. All the loads are developed by the staff of Handloader magazine and the archives of … Here's what I am planning on loading for some test rounds. Updated 2: As you could see in the performance data, this same load recipe was tried out with bullets other than the Berry’s. Then select your bullet weight, powder manufacturer and powder type. Isn't most data for the 147gr in 9mm sub-sonic? The 2000 rounds that I need to reload prior to Tom Givens’ next visit in October? According to several of my books, 3.8gr is the max load. 2.8 or 2.9 grain of TG..... test with gun. Berry's Bullets. Copyright © 1996-2021 AR15.COM LLC. Titegroup’s unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Heard good things about them. I have had great luck with Titegroup. I've pretty much settled on 3.4gr for all my suppressed guns. As of this past June I changed to 4.0 gr of Titegroup under a 124 gr Berry's FP (more of a truncated cone profile). Titegroup 3.6 @ 1.130 is my go to round avg 980fps Titegroup 3.3 @ 1.19 is 923.7fps Titegroup 3.5 @ 1.125 is 967.1fps Longshot 4.4 @ 1.125 is 933.7fps I thought I had more powders but I don't. of TiteGroup but as all of you are aware powder is hard to come by and need to load with what I have. In fact, we were converted to the 147 gr 9mm weight due to the more “push”-like recoil. Click "Get Data" to view results. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Find what you need in four easy steps. Updated 2: As you could see in the performance data, this same load recipe was tried out with bullets other than the Berry’s. Testing TiteGroup powder with 147 Grain Rainier bulletsPistols used:CZ 75 SP01 Smith and Wesson M&P Pro 5 inch 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum (147 GR) Handload Data reloading data with 55 loads. Consequently, my general 9mm plinking recipe will now be: Bullet: Precision Delta 9mm 115 grain FMJ ball copper jacket (but all the 9mm 115 grain FMJ/TMJ’s I’ve tried have worked with similar results). Both are Berry's plated bullets. Primer: Remington 1.5 Small Pistol (I’ve also tried Winchester, Federal, and Wolf small pistol primers and they’ve all worked with about similar results). Over 60 profiles and grain weights of the shooting industry's Superior Plated Bullets. The specific bullet, the specific primer, as you can see (if you trace through all the postings with the load data and chrono results) doesn’t seem to make a whole lot of difference so I go with what’s cheap or available. Go to Accurate Powders web site. I’d say this is turning out to be a nicely proven load. It caused too many wasted bullets. OAL Under 1.158 Over 1.552 If anyone can give me some feedback before I blow up a gun or hurt myself tomorrow it would be much appreciated. Here is my load data: MFS 9x19 Brass CCI 500 Primers 6.5 to 7 grains of Blue Dot Powder 124 RN Berrys Bullets Lee Factory Crimp, light to no crimp applied. 3.4 gr. I have both Bullseye and Hodgdon CEF Pistol, but I'm thinking the Bullseye will be a better choice. I wanted to add that this ammo has been run through numerous guns without any known hiccups. I had a one-pound can of Hodgdon Titegroup pistol powder, so I thought I'd work up a load for 9mm. OAL Under 1.158 Over 1.552 If anyone can give me some feedback before I blow up a gun or hurt myself tomorrow it would be much appreciated. Any data would be appreciated. Believe … Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. I … All made in the USA and provided with superior customer service. Reloading components I have available: -Berry's 147 grain plated round nose projectiles -Hodgdon Titegroup -CCI 500 and Federal 100 small pistol primers -Mixed headstamp range brass I do not currently have a chronograph available to test with and am looking for input from those that have experience reloading for suppressed shooting. 9mm Luger / 9mm Parabellum (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 160 loads. I’m sure if I pulled out a chrono I’d see something. Thanks for all of the suggestions. *knocks on wood* Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - Nitro 100 NF: 115 gr. Click on load data and then click on view centerfire load data edition 5.0. down load. I used a taper crimp and I know varying case lengths can affect the crimp, but I’m just looking to make a basic plinking/target load that I can shoot in quantity. I use a Lee turret with the AutoDisk, and I'm finding that one cavity is at or lower than the recommended min charge, and the next cavity up is … I have used Hornady 115 grain 9mm FMJ RN, and Speer 115 grain 9mm TMJ. Berry's recommends loading their plated bullets with low to mid FMJ data so you're right where you need to be. I am using Berry's plated 124 gr RN. I have both Bullseye and Hodgdon CEF Pistol, but I'm thinking the Bullseye will be a better choice. I’m going to get started on it now. Addendum 6/20 - checked my reloading data last night, showing min. 2.8 gr. Berry’s Bullets 9mm 124gr Xtreme Bullets. 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